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11. December 2009 by close to reality 61 Comments
a mail debate between a Pro-Telangana and a Pro-United Andhra Pradesh.. share your views as well..

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Telangana was a separate state until 1956.
India is under Britishers' rule before 1947. So what?
 
n-Telangana area people got used to using Telangana share of water, jobs, political power, so if Telangana created, they are worried about losing these.
Many Telangana People are working abroad including many from our own families, What if those countries say "You are not from our country, Go back to your Andhra Pradesh? So, all the NRIs who are holding gatherings in USA are willing to leave USA right away, come and settle back in Hyderabad? How many will do it today ? ZERO.. ZERO.. ZERO.. We all want our luxuries, we won't leave our luxuries, but we are ready to go and put clashes among the peaceful Andhra Pradesh people from USA. Great.."
 
1)      Go to any state govt office in Hyderabad itself, more than 90% of non-Telangana employees, due 2 political domination by Non-Telangana. So no major project in Telangana inspite of 55% total AP tax from Telangana
You can find the figures here Statistical Analysis of Development in 3 regions of United Andhra Pradesh
"Dunne vodidhe Bhumi ani chebuthaaru kadaa? mari chadvukoni Jobs techhukunna valla meeda kadupu manta enduku? All those people are (if this 90% is not exaggeration) in their jobs being the People of Andhra Pradesh, not being the people of some other state and come and loot the jobs of some other state. All are the people of Andhra Pradesh"
 
2)      Two major rivers pass through Telangana, no major irrigation project in Telangana.
Whose fault is this? all these 50 years Telangana don't have any MLAs, MPs, Ministers? So, what all these leaders from Telangana are doing? Taagi tongunnaara? Ok, If you say No, then why didn't we hold their collars and asked where is the development in Telangana? Aren't there any backward places in Andhra Pradesh other than Telangana?
 
3)      No Telangana CM allowed 2 continue for more then 2 yrs in AP.
Allowed? Who need to Allow them? Their removal is due to the reason that they are from Telangana? Oh! Come on..
4)      Hyd was capital of Telangana for last 400 years before merging it with AP state. Who built Assembly? High Court? Hussain Sagar?
If this is logic to ask, then don't worry, NIZAM's family members are still living in Hyderabad, Give it to them.
 
5)      Some Businesses built by Non-Telangana people are for their own profit, not for developing Telangana.
It is not where you built the business, It is who built that business. anyway, they are all not from USA, UK came here and built their businesses and making money. They all are part of our state Andhra Pradesh.
many telangana leaders also doing business all over India.
 
6)      Few Non-Telangana politicians for their Real estate business interests and other personal gains, opposing Telangana state.
Put the personal gains aside, and let us think like people of United Andhra. Personal interests will be there always. who doesn't have? How sure we are that these so called Telangana leaders doesn't have their personal gains involved and personal dreams involved in their politics?
 
7)      If Telangana created, none of Non-Telangana people will have any problem for their business or houses or jobs if they are already living in Telangana/Hyderabad.
Hahaha.. Good Joke.. I will build my house in the middle of Settlers' house (day before yester day KCR), Telangana wala Jaago, Andhra wala Bhaago (KCR today), Shahar hamara, Ghar bhi Hamara, Poora Hamaara (KCR tomorrow)
Who can give assurance on the safety and security of those families who made hyderabad or any other place in Telangana their home? What if Old City Muslims say Hyderabad is our Nizams, people from other telangana districts get lost? "WHAT IF SAME FORMULA WHAT PRO TELANGANA GUYS ASKING TODAY, WILL HIT BACK TO THEM TOMORROW BY HYDERABADI MUSLIMS?
 
8)      Lots of Telugus stay in Bangalore, do business there, is it justified to ask for Bangalore in AP?
Lots of telugu people live in Bangalore. Is it Justified if Karnataka Government throw them away over night from BANGALORE AND KARNATAKA?
 
9)      Naxalism is just a reason for the other area leaders to oppose Telangana. Telangana will have more benefits even with Naxalism if separate state is created, Telangana will have lot of funds and can start major irrigation projects
Naxalism is every where. start from Khammam until srikakulam. If our reasoning is TELANGANA people are dying to live, then from where the said 55% taxes are coming from Telangana people's pockets? are people from all regions of AP who are living in Hyderabad are paying taxes on Telangana region behalf as well? What if all those businesses, knowledge, people, resources left Telangana the moment we divide the state? they may loose in the beginning by shifting their businesses to their own regions, but at the end they will gain and we are the one loose. Then we all go to those towns looking for Jobs and they will chase us with stones and sticks the way we are doing today. Is that sounds cool?

If we can get those irrigation projects, those projects should have come by now. 50 years is not a small period. So, blame our leaders who are asking for separate state today, by asking them what exactly they have done for the region so far..
 
PLEASE GUYS.. OURS is a state for TELUGU people. Let all the TELUGUS stay united. Don't bring in the dangerous separatism which britishers did hundred years ago.
If we say Telangana today, tomorrow some other GANAA.. day after tomorrow some other GAANAA.. this will continue. within a day after chidambaram announcement, already 10 demands came for separate states. If this continues, very soon some of the Indian states will Join PAKISTAN, some CHINA and some AFGHANISTHAN..
 
Be united, get special packages for the backward regions and let us develop the state together, don't bring in fights between brothers and sisters.
If people really want telangana, BJP & TRS should have won the elections in 2009 six months ago, If really people of telangana want telangana, KCR baajaapthu gaa 20 rojula kritham GHMC lo contest chese vaadu.
TELANGANA CONGRESS LEADERS ARE THE SICKENING B*S*RDS who are encouraging all these things from behind the scene as they all are wearing bangles of SONIA GANDHI.
BJP is trying to regain some IMAGE as KCR is trying desperately so that they can put the Congress state Government in deep trouble and by doing so, demands all over India will raise for separate state to which congress won't say YES right away, and they can take it to their advantage in those states by saying "ONE VOTE - TWO STATES".
 
Wake up guys, wake up.. don't buy the stories of Separatists (specially TELANGANA leaders irrespective of party. Some of the TDP telangana leaders are the main reason for all this situation especially in TDP. they forced until TDP join hands with TRS and by doing so they made TDP hands dirty too. at least now, let us clean our hands and souls. It is better late than never.)
 
IF WE CONTINUE TO WRITE, FOR DAYS WE CAN WRITE OUR DIRTY REALITIES. BUT ARGUMENTS ARE OF NO USE. LET US STOP FIGHTING AND LET US START REBUILDING. WE HEARD TELANGANA LEADERS ARE TRYING TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE HEAT GOES DOWN AND START THE WHOLE THING AGAIN AFTER A YEAR OR TWO. WE HAVE TO FORGET SEPARATING FOREVER, IF NOT, NO INVESTOR  WILL COME TO ANDHRA PRADESH AS HE DOESN'T KNOW IN WHICH STATE HIS BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE, WHAT WILL BE THE ECONOMIC POSITION OF THAT STATE AND FOR HOW LONG THAT PARTICULAR STATE IS GOING TO BE A STATE BEFORE SOME OTHER SEPARATE STATE MOVEMENT COMES..
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Chandra Mohan Nellutla
United States Chandra Mohan Nellutla said:

Brother,
Its really most unfortunate on your part to shed venom on people with whom you desire to live in united Andhra Pradesh or Visalandhra.
If you would be really interested to know facts, I would be really willing to share my thoughts on this. If your arguments are well presented and justified I would definately try to spread your messages to another few hundreds of people.
For  the rightful analysis you need guts to study, understand and then analyse the Reality.
For all the questions posted above I have the best answers you could ever think of but just refrained myself from posting as I felt that you would not dare to post them and allow others to come out openly with their views.
I look at the analysis as most ignorant and meaningless.
If at all you are really interested to know the other side of the story please post this reply and I would surely reply  with the actual answers.
"I could awaken someone asleep but its hard to wake up a person pretending to sleep".

GoodLuck

Brotherly,
Chandra Mohan Nellutla

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

Dear Chandra Mohan,

First of all, thank you very much for sharing (or) willing to share your thoughts.

* I was born and brought up in Telangana but I am Pro-United.
* No venom or hatred on people but on the leaders 'yes'
* I can not go against the will of crores of people of telangana if they all want a separate telangana
* But i reserve my rights to express myself
* No comment will be censored here just because we don't like your post or your ideology.
* Comments with personal attack on the author or a religion or a community with unbearable & foul language may definitely be removed.

Would be glad to listen from your side of views as well. You are welcomed.

regards

Prasad
United States Prasad said:

"Dunne vodidhe Bhumi ani chebuthaaru kadaa? mari chadvukoni Jobs techhukunna valla meeda kadupu manta enduku? All those people are (if this 90% is not exaggeration) in their jobs being the People of Andhra Pradesh, not being the people of some other state and come and loot the jobs of some other state. All are the people of Andhra Pradesh"

From the begining telangana was ignored..and this is not 1 or 2years fight. You andhra people can stay and do their business as normal people and do not act as smart. You are here to spread the wealth and not to steal from telangana..  Don't say that because of andhra people education they got jobs... we know how you guys got jobs.. vadu..thelusu..veedu..thelusi..ani..anni..me..vallane..choose chestaru..Bottom line is..we do not want to stay with you guys..  All andhra settlers looted telangana properties and wealth. Now you are saying Samakya..Andhra..then why not you people supported when telangana..was ignored from the geging.. Bottom line ...Telangana..is seperate state.."period"

srinivas
India srinivas said:

Telangana Vaddura Samaikyandhra muddura..Manam matladedhi telugura telangana kadhura...Chettu midha kongara K.C.R dongara

Deepak
India Deepak said:

IF Emotions are driving us for a seperate State we are fooling our selves.
Good that you have raised the below concerns.

Atleast when you & i & our Children are born we are a United State.

Let us not bother what was before Let us see what is before & what can be the future.


I & Many others like me have studied in Hyderabad & feel that this is my Home town when we go abroad be it America or Europe we are proud & most of us  say with out second thought that we are Hyderabadi's First rather than Andhra Pradesh bcos that is the Brand we all Promoted by virtue of what ever Hyderabad today is.
So when it comes to Hyderabad & by Geography if you are a born Child I am an Adopted Child.
& if you treat this as a Property & you have a Right to own I do have a similar RIght of Ownership.

If you compare Hyd as a Business & we partnered unconditionally till today to happen what Hyderabad is today & want to Depart then along with you & me other brothers from Rayalaseema & Costa has a similar share.

My Idea is not debate on a Logic.

But see the Truth Transparently.

In today's World Money & Power Rules.
As Andhra Pradesh with a big number of MP"s as one of the major Force to  decided the Rulers of India,
we still have families without Food & Shelter be it in Telangana, Rayalaseema & Coastal Andhra.

Do you think tomorrow with 10 or 12 numbers from each of the Parts we will be able to fight for our share of Funds & Rights from Indian Government.

Its TIme for us to touch our Conscience are we not having the Mutual Trust what we have in Sonia or Chidambaram.

Today Tamilnadu is able to take Major Portpolio's in Central Cabinet with less number of MP's supporting the Govt than AP & they are silently favouring their state in every possible Space for betterment.

KCR is a Leader who sat for Fasting today for Seperation of Telangana but tomorrow if we are divided, for any Natural Calamity for any Disaster & for every Right many of you & we need to Sit like him to die keeping our Lives at the feet of Sonia or X or Y in Delhi.

I dont say that our Politicians are so good that they are negotiating everything for the betterment of the State but if we divide ourselves we are even loosing the Opportunity of Political Revolution for the Upliftment & Development of our areas.

Brother, think well think Smart - United we Stand & Divided we fall.

Regards,
Deepak

Sanket
India Sanket said:

What is Telengana? How are its borders defined?

There has been no political entity called Telengana in the history of India. So, how come Hyderabad was its capital for 400 years?

Liars should be exposed.

Ben
United States Ben said:

separate country kosam struggle kaadu. manam separate state kosam struggle chestunam. oka vela Telanagana developed vunte ee godava ledu Kada? Maa boomi kosam nevvu evaru decide cheyaniki ? We are all Indians, I asking this because I want taxes paid by telangana people to be used for telangana region. Every Andhrite if you want to be united then dont leave your parents house for a smaller family after getting married ? Show unity in your personal lives before talking about samikya andhra. I want telanga because it has seen reverse development. If hard working people are to be encouraged irrespective of their origin then forget the languages combine the all states in India. And bring survival of the fittest.

Chandra Mohan Nellutla
United States Chandra Mohan Nellutla said:

Comparision - Telangana – Rayalseema – Uttara Andhra

Lot of times I hear Brothers from Rayalseema and Costal wondering why people talk about the neglect in Telangana, when we see the same amount of negligence in districts like Anantapur, Srikakulam, Vizianagaram etc.

In this article I would like to express the Telanganites stand point.

The State of Andhra Pradesh was formed on November 1, 1956 by the merger of already existing two states (Andhra and Hyderabad) and hence Andhra Pradesh was a conditional state unlike other Linguistic states formed in India after the first S.R.C (states reorganization committee headed by Justice Fazal Ali).


Conditional state: why a conditional state? The reason is simple.
Andhra (coastal + Rayalseema + Uttara Andhra) was economically strong wherein people were more educated, knew lobbying at different levels, were technically good compared to Telanganites but their state exchequer of Andhra State with Kurnool as capital was in real Doldrums, unable to bear even the salaries to the employees of the state.
On the other hand due to the atrocities of Razakars, Feudal Land lords, the people of Telangana were less educated but the looted money by Nizam was later distributed among the Central Government, Hyderabad State and a small portion was given to Nizam. On the whole Telangana people were less educated, weak in Technical skills but had a strong Revenue base and the Hyderabad State that existed between 1948 and 1956 always had Surplus budget. Hyderabad state with good Natural resources (Rich Coal deposits found in Adilabad, KarimNagar, Warangal and Khammam), Largest deposits of Lime stone in the south, Good fertile lands ( in the districts of Nizamabad, Karimnagar, Medak, Warangal, Khammam and Nalgonda ) , Rivers Krishna & Godavari Flowing across the region was all set to make its mark in future.

Telanganites were never interested to merge with Andhra with a fear that they would be neglected and would never get their fair share in the future years to come.
Andhra Lobbyists persuaded Telanganites and made all the promises they could that would ease the process of Merger.
As the state was formed with Conditions on Hand, we would call Andhra Pradesh as a Conditional State rather than calling it as a Linguistic Telugu State(First SRC never suggested one united state for Telugu speaking People instead SRC Recommended existence of Andhra and Hyderabad as two seperate states).

The conditions were between two units or Parties at that Time:
1. Andhra (comprises of Coastal Region, Uttara Andhra Region and Rayalseema Region)
2. Hyderabad State (Today’s “Telangana”).

As these are only two parties involved in the agreement, whenever one region tries to take an undue advantage, the other region has the right to fight for the injustice meted on them. This is happening today. Telangana has to advocate for itself as on numerous occasions . Time and again agreements (Gentlemen's Agreement of 1956, Mulki Rules, 6 point formula, 8 point formula, Presedential Order or 610G.O.) were not honored nor did Telangana receive justice in spite of its rich contribution towards Andhra Pradesh today.


As the rule of the land says that locals rights should be protected while sharing the riches with others. Telangana never deceived Rayalseema or Uttara Andhra of its fair share. On the contrary, Telangana was deprived of its share in water, jobs, Educational facilities, Healthcare and social justice. Telangana contributed a lot towards Andhra Pradesh Economy but never had anything for its people. Questions were raised many times against this gross injustice and as they were paid a Deaf Ear, it had become inevitable to fight for their identity that can be achieved only through Separate Satehood.


As far as I know, Telangana is the only region which has a District(Nalgonda) wheirein 7,00,000 People are affected by Fluorsis (Legs Crippled, Hands Crippled, ) due to lack of supply of drinking Water to hundreds of villages even though Nalgonda has the largest Masonary dam in the World, Nagarjuna Sagar built on its soil.


MahabubNagar District could see River Krishna flowing 365 days in the year in its vicinity but has severe drought which drives out lakhs of people from the district every year in search of Food & shelter.


These examples are just a tip on the Iceberg and in my future articles I would discuss in detail injustice meted onto Telangana one sector at a time like Educational disparities, Healthcare disparities etc.

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

"Telangana contributed a lot towards Andhra Pradesh Economy but never had anything for its people."
every where i am observing this type of statements where on one hand people asking for separate Telangana say 'Telangana didn't develop, Telangana people can't even eat, Telangana people got no education and no jobs to survive, etc., etc.,
and on the other hand they say 'Telangana's tax pay is being used for Andhra, Telangana is making money, Telangana's economy is Andhra Pradesh's economy etc.,
These opposite statements are making everyone confused. So let us talk on this subject.
"Is it TELANGANA, a place is making money on its own? or people living in those places are making money and paying taxes? If people are making and paying taxes? Then who they are? People of Andhra Pradesh? people of Andhra & seema region? or People of Telangana region?
If people of Telangana region are doing it, then we should consider they are making money and paying taxes, which means then why do they claim they are backward? If they are not doing it, then who are helping to make the money and being blamed in the return?"

naga raju
India naga raju said:

@ Close to Reality

leave it man.
If all they want is to commit suicide by asking for separate telangana state and damage the prospects of the people of all the four regions, let them go ahead and do it.
Because "Moorkhuni manasu ranjimpacheyyalem, cheviti vaadi mundu shankham voodina no point"

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:


wake up call for separatists:

Suddenly, the State of Andhra Pradesh and the whole nation are in turmoil. The tranquil climate, so vital for economic prosperity at a time of tough global challenges and great opportunities, has been vitiated by the pursuit of vote-banks and the arousing of primordial loyalties.

Politicians playing with fire have now opened the Pandora's Box and have sown the seeds of discord in many pockets of India. A dangerous message has gone out: Elections, constitutional process, reasoned and healthy public discourse are not important; indulge in rabble-rousing, promote violence and obstruction, and the government will yield.

To understand the tumult in Andhra Pradesh now, one should imagine what would happen in Tamil Nadu if a new state of North Tamil Nadu, along with Chennai, is carved out; or the consternation in Karnataka if South Karnataka with Bengaluru is carved out as a separate State.

For the first time, a region with a large capital city wants to separate as a State. So far, every demand for a new State has been from far-flung areas away from the State capital. Hyderabad is not just another city. It is on par with Chennai and Bengaluru, and with 85 lakh people, accounts for over 25 per cent of the population of Telangana and 60 per cent of the economy of the region. Millions from all over the country and the various regions of AP have made it their home.

Every significant political, business or civil society leader has made Hyderabad home, and is emotionally attached to the city, even if the political base may be elsewhere. In such a situation, the all-too-casual approach to separate Statehood is calamitous.

Firm stand

The Indian nation is still in the making. Indira Gandhi was both powerful and, on occasion, autocratic. But even when her party had monopoly of power, she understood the fragility of the nation and worked hard to find a compromise on demands for Statehood.

Two major agitations for separate Statehood shook Andhra Pradesh — in Telangana in 1969, and in the Andhra region in 1973. Indira Gandhi had complete political sway over the whole State without any challenge, and yet she recognised and stated that if each group of districts, or sub-region, wants separate Statehood, eventually every district would become a State and the nation would be ungovernable. At that time, the population of Hyderabad was 10 lakh.

Once the Congress government in Delhi amended the Constitution (32nd Amendment), inserted Article 371-D, and hammered out a six-point formula to protect the interests of Telangana, there was peace and quiet for over 30 years. Hyderabad grew very rapidly and became a major economic hub. And now, again, the casual and arbitrary approach of the union government, short-term vote bank politics of parties and shameless political duplicity have led to a wholly avoidable crisis, that has further undermined the eroding legitimacy of politics and parties.

Losing resources

There are serious economic issues to be examined on the issue of carving out a separate State in Andhra Pradesh. First, the capital city is a serious bone of contention, and once people and investors lose faith in the future, it will decline rapidly.

This will hurt both Andhra Pradesh and India, because large cities are now important clusters of growth, and if a Mumbai or Delhi faces economic hardship, the whole nation will be impacted by the fallout.

Second, parts of the coastal region are agriculturally well-developed and have resources and surpluses. For instance, the coastal region generates surplus revenues in the power sector, and is subsidising power for farmers in Telangana and Rayalaseema. A separate State will be burdened by an unviable power sector.

Costal regions are always engines of growth all over the world. Telangana is land-locked, and losing the costal region would retard growth and opportunities. Again, this is the first time a land-locked region is seeking to separate from the coastal belt. When passions subside, the pain and deprivation will be felt.

Water resources are always a bone of contention in a monsoon-fed country. Even in a relatively well-managed city of Mumbai, enjoying abundant rainfall on the West coast, water riots took a life recently. In a water-starved region, river water disputes will escalate, and sharing of Krishna and Godavari waters will be a nightmare.

In the K-G basin off the Andhra coast, abundant natural gas reserves have recently been found, and are being tapped. Already, there is the challenge of sharing natural resources between the home State and the rest of India, and now Telangana will be further depleted.

Large, unviable lift irrigation projects — at a capital cost of Rs 3-4 lakh per acre and Rs 40,000 per year per acre maintenance cost — have been unwisely proposed in Telangana. They will be a permanent drain on the economy of the region, undermining it without ensuring benefits.

Politics of inclusion

Poverty, backwardness, corruption, lack of opportunity and unemployment are endemic to many of the country's States and sub-regions. These are caused by failed policies, misgovernance and the politics of plunder, leading to kleptocracy.

Large parts of Telangana and Rayalaseema, most of north coastal Andhra Pradesh, upland areas of delta districts, and many families suffering discrimination by birth in every village — all of them are victims of terrible misgovernance and political failure.

The perpetuation of poverty and under-development is largely the result of the plunder of local politicians and bureaucrats. A change of the State's name or boundaries or capital will not alter anything.

The need of the hour is to accelerate growth and promote equity and opportunities. What every sub-region of Andhra Pradesh, indeed every part of India, needs is empowerment of people, district governments and third-tier of federalism to help people fulfill their potential.

We cannot use 19th century notions of divisive politics in a 21th century world.

Telangana NRI
United States Telangana NRI said:

a mail debate between a Pro-Telangana and a Pro-United Andhra Pradesh.. share your views as well..

cOMMENTS ARE DIVIDED AS [ANDHRA][TELANGANA]



[TELANGANA] Telangana was a separate state until 1956.

[ANDHRA]India is under Britishers' rule before 1947. So what

[TELANGANA]

So what means you are not able to understand ..... you guys came from (Madras)where presedency rule came ....
you had good education ... In T-Region we have NIZAMS .. who created DORAS .. who used to grab the land and all were slaves to them ...
That the reason Naxlas came into picture ...


[TELANGANA] In-Telangana area people got used to using Telangana share of water, jobs, political power, so if Telangana created, they are worried about losing these.

[ANDHRA]

Many Telangana People are working abroad including many from our own families, What if those countries say "You are not from our country, Go back to your Andhra Pradesh? So, all the NRIs who are holding gatherings in USA are willing to leave USA right away, come and settle back in Hyderabad? How many will do it today ? ZERO.. ZERO.. ZERO.. We all want our luxuries, we won't leave our luxuries, but we are ready to go and put clashes among the peaceful Andhra Pradesh people from USA. Great.."

[TELANGANA]

Dear if we dont want T-state then why the potti sri ramulu made you separate from MADRAS ...
What happened to your unity at that time ....??????
Why were you divided from MADRAS ... ?????????



WHO TOLD YOU PEOPLE TO LEAVE HYDERABAD .... TRS IS NOT DOING WHAT RAJ TAKERY IS DOING IN MUMBAI ....
YOU EXAMPLE IS INCORRECT ......HYDERABAD DONT NOT BELONG TO ANY ONE PERSON ...
BUT HYDERABAD IS IN TELENGANA AND THE GOVT JOBS ARE MEANT FOR LOCALS AND NOT FOR ANDHRA .....


1)    
[TELANGANA]
Go to any state govt office in Hyderabad itself, more than 90% of non-Telangana employees, due 2 political domination by Non-Telangana. So no major project in Telangana inspite of 55% total AP tax from Telangana

[ANDHRA]

"Dunne vodidhe Bhumi ani chebuthaaru kadaa? mari chadvukoni Jobs techhukunna valla meeda kadupu manta enduku? All those people are (if this 90% is not exaggeration) in their jobs being the People of Andhra Pradesh, not being the people of some other state and come and loot the jobs of some other state. All are the people of Andhra Pradesh"

[TELANGANA]

THIS CONCEPT IS NOT APPLICABLE HERE ....IF I TAKE A NICE EXAMPLE YOU WILL NOT ABLE TO BARE THAT ....
EDUCATION..WATER ...AGRICULTURE WAS A PROBLEM IN TELANGANA ...FROM PAST 50 YEARS ...
ALL THE PEOPLE USED TO GO TO DUBAI FOR 10,000 RUPEES PER MONTH KOOLIES ....
MIMIMUM OF 20,000 PEOPLE OF TELANAGA WHO WENT DUE TO LACK OF WATER AND AGRICULTRUE ARE IN JAILS OF ARABIC COUNTRIES ....


""""Dunne vodidhe Bhumi ani chebuthaaru kadaa? concePT example ?""""


SOME BODY WHO IS STRONG COMES TO YOUR HOME AND TELL YOU I HAVE MORE STRENGHT AND KICKS YOU AND TELL YOU  

"Dunne vodidhe Bhumi ani chebuthaaru kadaa"

AND ASK ALL THE PROPERTY RIGHTS FROM YOU ? DO U AGREEEE ??????????????????????????????????????????????

YOU WIL DIE FOR THAT RIGHT ?????? THE SAME TELANGANAA IS DONG NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ITS ALLL ABOUT STRENGHT DEAR ? YOU CANT EXPLIOT THAT ... YOUR YSR,NCB ALL HAVE EXPLOITED THAT ......



2)   [TELANGANA]    Two major rivers pass through Telangana, no major irrigation project in Telangana.


[ANDHRA]
Whose fault is this? all these 50 years Telangana don't have any MLAs, MPs, Ministers? So, what all these leaders from Telangana are doing? Taagi tongunnaara? Ok, If you say No, then why didn't we hold their collars and asked where is the development in Telangana? Aren't there any backward places in Andhra Pradesh other than Telangana?

[TELANGANA]

YES WE HAVE MLA , MPS WHO SLAVES TO YSR ,NCB ALL THESE DAYS ...... ONE THING BOSSSSSSS...
TELL ME ONE THING IF YOUR ARE INTO SOFTWARE .. WILL YOU CROSS THE WORDS OF THE PM OR ANY HEAD IF HE SAYS NOOOO.....
THE SAME THING HAPPENED HERE .....

""""In Election 2009 there are two dates for election in Telengana 16-Apr-2009 (Thursday) and in Andhra  23-Apr-2009 (Thursday)
You hot faverioute YSR at 04:00PM spoke anti-telengana on 16 Aprl in kurnool region after the votes have being posted in the Telengana region """

YSR WON ...... BUT GOD IS THERE ..... KUKKAAAAA CHAVVUUUUUU ... KUUUUKKAAAA SAVUUUU .....
NAXALS KI CHESINAAA ANAYAMAM ... TELENGANA KI CHESII PAPAM ..... CHOPPER INCIDENT ....

I DONT SAY KCR OR MLAS , MPS ARE T-STATE ARE GOOODDD .... TELL ME ONE THING IN THESE DAYS WHO IS NOT SELFISH ...
EAT WHAT EVER THEY WANT ... BUT ALTEAST 40% GOOD THINGS ARE ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE ......
THAT WHY WE WANT OUR STATE .....


3)   [TELANGANA]   No Telangana CM allowed 2 continue for more then 2 yrs in AP.

[ANDHRA]

Allowed? Who need to Allow them? Their removal is due to the reason that they are from Telangana? Oh! Come on..

[TELANGANA]

WHAT COME ON ? HE IS SAYING EXPLOITION IS HAPPENED HERE ... WHEN TELANGANA IS MERGED WITH ANDHRA ...
THERE WAS A AGREEMENT TELLING THAT A DEPUTY CM SHOULD BE THERE FROM TELENGANA ......

THERE ARE also exploited from andhra leaders ......the strenght of andhra leaders are more and one from that party is becomming has the head ....


4)     [TELANGANA]   Hyd was capital of Telangana for last 400 years before merging it with AP state. Who built Assembly? High Court? Hussain Sagar?

[ANDHRA]

If this is logic to ask, then don't worry, NIZAM's family members are still living in Hyderabad, Give it to them.


[TELANGANA]

IF THAT IS THE SAME WILL WE GIVE ALL OUR RAILWAYS PROFITS TO BRITISH NOW .......

EVEN IN YOU VIJIWADA ALL ARE NOT BUILD BY YOUR LEADERS .......


HE MEANT TO SAY THAT ... YOU ANDHRA SAY THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPED THE HYDERABAD ... BUT THAT IS NOT TRUE .....
YOUR KURNOOL CAPTIAL IS FIT FOR NOTHING AND THE BUSTARD ANDHRA LEADER CHOSSED HYDERABAD AS CAPTIAL ... BECAUSE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTRE IS ALREADY BUILT IN ....

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1562 hussain sagar lake, 1578 poorana pool 1589 Charminar, Gulzar house,
1803 sultan shahi tank, 1805 miralam tank, 1808 koti womens college (British residency)
1828 chandulal bardari, 1862 GPO post office 1873 public garden Bombay-secbad railway line 1874 Nizams railway,
1884 chanchal guda jail, 1883 nampally railway station 1885 telephone lines (first in
India) 1890 nizam observatory (birla pametorium) 1927 himayat sagar(gandipet) ayurvedic hospital ,1920 high court , 1930 first cement roads for the length of 300Km,

Educational institutions. .

1856 Darul uloom school, chaderghat school, alia school,
1884 Mahboobia college ,1887 nampally girls college, 1890 ,1894 asifia high school medical college, 1890 girls college chader ghat,
1904 VV school Jambagh, 1910 Mahboobia girls college gunfoundry, 1920 osmania university, city college, 1921 osmania medical college,
1923 hyderbad public school, 1924 marwadi hindi vidyalaya,
1926 secunderbad hindi mahavidyalaya, 1930 physical education college,
1946 college of veterinary science,

Medical institutions

1890 ayurvedic college, unani college, 1894 medical college osmania, 1897 mental hospital, 1905 victoria memorial hospital, 1916 homeo pathy college, 1945 niloufer children hospital, TB hospital (SR Nagar), Cancer hospital, NIMS, Gandhi hospital,

Industries,

1873, first spinning mill lower tank bund,
1876 govt printing press, ordinance factory
1919 VST RTC X road,
1932 RTC,
1921 chemical factory, 1942 State bank of Hyderabad, allwyn metals,
1943 praga tools, 1946 hyderbad asbestos,
1947 hyderbad laminations.
1932 ALL INDIA RADIO .
1944 IICT,
1932 NGRI
1898 survey of India UPPAL
Even DRDO institutions were established before 1956.

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THE ABOVE ARE THE THINGS ALREADY PRESENT IN HYDERABAD .... WHAT THE HECK ANDHRA HAVE DID TO HYDERABAD .....?????



5)  [TELANGANA]    Some Businesses built by Non-Telangana people are for their own profit, not for developing Telangana.

[ANDHRA]

It is not where you built the business, It is who built that business. anyway, they are all not from USA, UK came here and built their businesses and making money. They all are part of our state Andhra Pradesh.
many telangana leaders also doing business all over India.

[TELANGANA]

I ACCPET YOU POINT .. BUT OUR INTENSION WHY THE HELD THE LEADERS NOT DEVELOPING IN TELANGANA .....
NOTE: HYDERABAD ONLY IS NOT TELANGANA .... VIJAWADA ..VIZAG ARE DEVELOPING SOON WITH THE MONEY , TAXES WHICH YOU GET FROM HYDERABAD ...

TELL ME THE ANSWER TO THIS

"

From  Kuddapa to pullivendala there is a 4 liner road ...worth of 200 Cores ... its ok because its YSR home town

why again a four liner from Pullivendala to IdupulaiaPalla(YSR estate)again some X crores ?


"

iS THIS NECASSARY ? WHERE YOU GOT THIS MUCH MONEY FROM YOUR ANDHRA ? FROM ANDHRA PRADESH RIGHT ? MEANS FROM TELANGANA ALSO RIGHT ?????

OTHER THAN WARANGAL DO U SEE ANY OTHER PLACE WHERE WE HAVE GOOD RAIWALYS IN T-REGIONS ?????

WHY CANT THESE MONEY SPEND HERE ??????????????????????



6)   [TELANGANA]    Few Non-Telangana politicians for their Real estate business interests and other personal gains, opposing Telangana state.

[ANDHRA]

Put the personal gains aside, and let us think like people of United Andhra. Personal interests will be there always. who doesn't have? How sure we are that these so called Telangana leaders doesn't have their personal gains involved and personal dreams involved in their politics?

[TELANGANA]

YES 100% AGREE ..
YSR bought his son JAGAN…
NCB bought his son-in-law jr ntr
KCR bought his son KTR,Harish …


yes we also want gains to our leaders AND OUR PEOPLE .......

OUR TELANAGANA PEOPLE ARE MISSING THAT ....





7)   [TELANGANA]    If Telangana created, none of Non-Telangana people will have any problem for their business or houses or jobs if they are alreadyliving in Telangana/Hyderabad.

[ANDHRA]

Hahaha.. Good Joke.. I will build my house in the middle of Settlers' house (day before yester day KCR), Telangana wala Jaago, Andhra wala Bhaago (KCR today), Shahar hamara, Ghar bhi Hamara, Poora Hamaara (KCR tomorrow)
Who can give assurance on the safety and security of those families who made hyderabad or any other place in Telangana their home? What if Old City Muslims say Hyderabad is our Nizams, people from other telangana districts get lost? "WHAT IF SAME FORMULA WHAT PRO TELANGANA GUYS ASKING TODAY, WILL HIT BACK TO THEM TOMORROW BY HYDERABADI MUSLIMS?

[TELANGANA]

HELLO DEAR , IN HYDERABAD YOU ARE ONLY FROM KUTATPALLY .. MANY OTHER PEOLPE FROM OTHER STATE ARE IN HYDERABAD ....
KCR IS A STUPID .... TELANGANA =KCR = TELANGANA THIS IS NOT TRUE ......

THERE ARE MANY LEADERS WHO WILL STOP HIS MADNESS ...

YOUR FORUMULA ASSUMPTION IS WRONG .....

NIZAM= TELANGANA = NIZAM ....

IF YOU DO OVER ACTION .. MUSLIMS WILL REVOLT AGANIST ANDHRA .. AND KICK YOU OUT ... DONT ACT TOO SMART ...



8) [TELANGANA]      Lots of Telugus stay in Bangalore, do business there, is it justified to ask for Bangalore in AP?

[ANDHRA]

Lots of telugu people live in Bangalore. Is it Justified if Karnataka Government throw them away over night from BANGALORE AND KARNATAKA?

[TELANGANA]

WHO TOLD YOU TO GO OUT .....SEE WHAT IS THE ANDHRAS FEELING NOW ...
THEY ARE TELLING HYDERABAD IS YOUR ... THATS IS WRONG WE ARE TELLING ... HYDERABAD IS OURS ....


9)  [TELANGANA]     Naxalism is just a reason for the other area leaders to oppose Telangana. Telangana will have more benefits even with Naxalism ifseparate state is created, Telangana will have lot of funds and can start major irrigation projects

[ANDHRA]
Naxalism is every where. start from Khammam until srikakulam. If our reasoning is TELANGANA people are dying to live, then from where the said 55% taxes are coming from Telangana people's pockets? are people from all regions of AP who are living in Hyderabad are paying taxes on Telangana region behalf as well? What if all those businesses, knowledge, people, resources left Telangana the moment we divide the state? they may loose in the beginning by shifting their businesses to their own regions, but at the end they will gain and we are the one loose. Then we all go to those towns looking for Jobs and they will chase us with stones and sticks the way we are doing today. Is that sounds cool?

[TELANGANA]

ALL THESE DAYS WE ARE LOOSING .... WHO TOLD THE BUSSINESS IN HYDERABAD WILL HALUT FOR ANDHRAS ... THAT IS WRONG ....


If we can get those irrigation projects, those projects should have come by now. 50 years is not a small period. So, blame our leaders who are asking for separate state today, by asking them what exactly they have done for the region so far..

"blame our leaders "IN THIS 50 YEARS ONLY 5 YEARS TELANGANA HAVE RULED THE STATE ....
ALL THIS CREDIT GOES TO ANDHRA LEADERS ... NTR ,NCB,YSRRRR


[ANDHRA]  


PLEASE GUYS.. OURS is a state for TELUGU people. Let all the TELUGUS stay united. Don't bring in the dangerous separatism which britishers did hundred years ago.
If we say Telangana today, tomorrow some other GANAA.. day after tomorrow some other GAANAA.. this will continue. within a day after chidambaram announcement, already 10 demands came forseparate states. If this continues, very soon some of the Indian states will Join PAKISTAN, some CHINA and some AFGHANISTHAN..

Be united, get special packages for the backward regions and let us develop the state together, don't bring in fights between brothers and sisters.

[TELANGANA]

HELLO DEAR , THINK POSITEVLY

WHY CANT YOU TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF USA .....

USA IS 1/3 OF INDIA ..THEY HAVE 50 STATES .. WHY CANT WE HAVE 29 STATES ...

WHY YOU ARE SAYING "UNITED "EVERY TIME ... IF THAT IS YOU POINT ....

WHY 28 STATES IN INDIA ... WE ALL GET UNITED AND CAN DO MARICLES ???? DOES THIS SOUNDS GOOD ?FOOLISHNESS RIGHT ???

SAME THING WE ALSO FEEL IF YOU SAY UNITED NOW ....LOTS OF EXPLOITIONS .......

MAHABUBNAR IS NEAR IS KRISHINA .... AND EVERY TIME ...NO WATER AND FOOD IN THAT DISTRICT ...


[ANDHRA]
If people really want telangana, BJP & TRS should have won the elections in 2009 six months ago, If really people of telangana want telangana, KCR baajaapthu gaa 20 rojula kritham GHMC lo contest chese vaadu.
TELANGANA CONGRESS LEADERS ARE THE SICKENING B*S*RDS who are encouraging all these things from behind the scene as they all are wearing bangles of SONIA GANDHI.

[TELANGANA]

Telangana People did not voted aganist Telangana …. For us KCR is not Telangana ….

If KCR dies …1000 KCRS will take birth from telangana ….

Please analyis this in 2004 general elections Congress YSR , Sonia told that they are not aganist telangana …
Similarly TDP told that they are they are also not aganist telanagana … so the votes have being divided in telangana …
..

Similarly in 2009 election also TRS have alligned with your favourite NCB …At that time also Congress cheif came to
hyderabad … in secenderabad ground she told ahe will take a right decission in right time ….

the reason why your NCB joined with TRS is for votes in telangana ….Even Chiru PRP told if bill is passed in telangana
we are ready .. i remember he told this words in peddapelly ..karimnagar Dist ..

In Election 2009 there are two dates for election in Telengana 16-Apr-2009 (Thursday) and in Andhra 23-Apr-2009 (Thursday)
You hot faverioute YSR at 04:00PM spoke anti-telengana on 16 Aprl in kurnool region after the votes have being posted
in the Telengana region

What is doing here boss ?????

[ANDHRA]

BJP is trying to regain some IMAGE as KCR is trying desperately so that they can put the Congress state Government in deep trouble and by doing so, demands all over India will raise forseparate state to which congress won't say YES right away, and they can take it to their advantage in those states by saying "ONE VOTE - TWO STATES".

Wake up guys, wake up..[fIRST YOU WAKE UP ...] don't buy the stories of Separatists (specially TELANGANA leaders irrespective of party. Some of the TDP telangana leaders are the main reason for all this situation especially in TDP. they forced until TDP join hands with TRS and by doing so they made TDP hands dirty too. at least now, let us clean our hands and souls. It is better late than never.)

IF WE CONTINUE TO WRITE, FOR DAYS WE CAN WRITE OUR DIRTY REALITIES. BUT ARGUMENTS ARE OF NO USE. LET US STOP FIGHTING AND LET US START REBUILDING. WE HEARD TELANGANA LEADERS ARE TRYING TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE HEAT GOES DOWN AND START THE WHOLE THING AGAIN AFTER A YEAR OR TWO. WE HAVE TO FORGET SEPARATING FOREVER, IF NOT, NO INVESTOR  WILL COME TO ANDHRA PRADESH AS HE DOESN'T KNOW IN WHICH STATE HIS BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE, WHAT WILL BE THE ECONOMIC POSITION OF THAT STATE AND FOR HOW LONG THAT PARTICULAR STATE IS GOING TO BE A STATE BEFORE SOME OTHERSEPARATE STATE MOVEMENT COMES

[TELANGANA]

WE WILL NOT STOP DISCUSSION OR SEPERATION ...... JAI TELANGANA ...JAI JAI TELANGANA .......

TELL ME WHY YSR DID THIS ???????????

In Election 2009 there are two dates for election in Telengana 16-Apr-2009 (Thursday) and in Andhra 23-Apr-2009 (Thursday)
You hot faverioute YSR BY SEEING WATCH at 04:00PM spoke anti-telengana on 16 Aprl in kurnool region after the votes have being posted
in the Telengana region???????

THIS IS GETTING VOTES BY CRITISING TELANGANA ??? BUT HE DID NOT SPOKE A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THAT IN PAST ....

GOD IS THERE !!!



JAI TELANGANA
WELCOME ALL TO NEW STATE !!!!!!

Varma Mathur
United States Varma Mathur said:

Dear Sanket ,


Before i answer what is telangana ?

Tell me what is INDIA ? Andhra ? RayalaSeema ?

got it ?

Telangana is 10 districts and it already have borders .....

wait and see !!! you are welcome to telangana ....


chandra Mohan Nellutla
United States chandra Mohan Nellutla said:

"Telangana contributed a lot towards Andhra Pradesh Economy but never had anything for its people."

Let me quote some examples for this.
1. Singareni that produces Coal had generated on an average 1000 crores per year in the past 53 years just on Sales tax leave about the profits made by selling Coal.
2. Land around Hyderabad was Given at a meagre price of Rs.1/- per sq yard to these Film studios etc which generates crores of Rupees and again that benefits people who are non Telanganites. The land that is either given for free or at throw away prices belong to Telanganites. Is this not a contribution?
3. River Musi that used to Provide irrigation in the districts of Hyderabad, Ranga Reddy and Nalgonda had been just converted to Waste Gutter by allowing the waste of all the Private industries  avoiding the expenses of Waste disposal. Have the TElanganites not lost in the process?
4. Nizam Sugars, Azam Zahi Mills, Allwyn, Hyderabad Asbestos, Praga Tools which were all Public Service units started by Nizam are closed down today. All these together used to provide employment to atleast 5 lakh people which means 20 lakh people depended on their livelihood(Assuming 4 dependents per job). These units were closed and  lands & assets were sold which inturn beneffited to finance programs & projects in other regions. Nizam sugars was closed and on the other side Andhra Sugars in Nellore was developed which increased the transportation charges to Sugarcane farmers of Nizamabad. Don't we see the contribution of Telangana here?
6. Telangana land allowed Sanjeev Reddy Nagars, Vengal Rao Nagars, Guntur Palle's, Sri Ram nagar's to be established in almost all 10 districts? Can we see any of Warangal peta or Karim nagar Palle's in Andhra and Rayaaseema. Don't we see contributions here?
7. who are these Real estate big wigs? How did they make money? Is it not the Telangana land that fetches fortune for them?
Disparities were shown even in giving Govenment subsidies to the farmers on Seeds, Fertilizers, current at subsidized price.

I live in a U.S city and we all are contibuting towards the economy. Does it mean that we should stake our claim on these cities?
We are allowed to stay, work, build our properties here if we are in the legal framework. U.S.A does not allow us at the expense of depriving the locals right to live. On the contarary, Telangana was deprived of its share in jobs which should have taken care if Gentlemen's Agreement was implemented.

Andhra has its resources and at the same time Telangana has its own resources like highest deposits of Coal, Limestone etc.  
Everyone needs to realise that it was similar situation due to which Andhra was Carved out of Madras State.
It is not just the case of under development in Telangana, it is continued case of neglect by Rulers which would continue in the present form of arrangements. The politics are controlled by Andhra Lobby and this strong lobby would not take any decision in favour of Telangana. Time and again agreements were revived and all the agreements were never honoured.
Whether it is 19th century or 21st Century, justice should always prevail.
The Preamble of our Indian constitution should not be defeated in the name of advanced age & modern development.
Creation of Telangana state is a democratic demand as per Article 3 of Indian constitution.

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ Telangana NRI,

few clarifications on your assumptions..
* that i am from Andhra, (If you really have gone through the post and comments, you might have noticed that i am from Telangana region)
* that i live in Kukatpally (If a person is talking in favour of United AP, it doesn't mean that he is from Andhra and living in Kukatpally)
* You and some others want separate Telangana doesn't mean that we all (people from Telangana) want a separate state too. So you have to realize that there are people from Telangana who don't want a separate state.

Answers to your Questions

* Building Puilvendula-idupulapaya 4 lane, yes i do agree and that is the why i said Telangana Congress leaders are wearing Sonia Gandhi's bangles, If not they would have opposed YSR. But unfortunately, Telangana Congress Leaders (Andhra region leaders as well), in a way every one else is quiet because of the strength of the leader. Now the leader is weak (Rosaiah), and all started to wag their tails.

One who do bad to the people will never find happiness at the end of the day. YSR experienced it already. KCR turn is to come.

i think there are few more topics to discuss, but as i am running short of time at this moment, i'll talk about it later.



Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

Hello All..

Is P.V.Narasimaha Rao (full term prime minister) is from Andhra Region ??
No, he is from Telangana region. What he has done for Telangana being a prime minister?

Who is S.Jaipal Reddy ? What he has done for Telangana? Is he from Andhra? Forever lobbying in Delhi, every time central minister, what is the use?

KCR. central minister for 2 years ?? Is he from Andhra Region? what he has done for Telangana?

KAKA, KK, VH, MADHU YASHKEY, UPPUNUTHALA, DAMODAR REDDY (Ex. IT), JANA REDDY (Ex.Home), Late Indra Reddy (Ex. Home), Late A.madhava Reddy (Ex.Home), T.Devender Goud (Ex.Home), Sabitha Indra Reddy (Present Home Minister), Gutta Sukendhar Reddy (Present MP), Komati Reddy Brothers (One MP, One present Minister)..

these are just few names only. What they have done so far for their own region's development and what they will do in future?

chandra mohan Nellutla
United States chandra mohan Nellutla said:

P.V.Narasimaha Rao could suceed full term as Prime Minister but could not suceed full term as chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh. P.V had to step down as C.M just because he had guts to implement Urban land ceiling Act for the first time in India by surrendering his 1100 ancesterol property. Many of the Andhra Lobbyist lost their illegal holdings and that ignited them to force Delhi to remove P.V.Narsimha Rao.  P.V. Narsimha Rao was not a separatist but as he expressed happiness on Supreme court judgement that Mulki Rules were valid he had to face the wrath of Andhra Lobby. It was then Jai Andhra Movement started whose main objective was to stop rendering Justice to Telangana as directed by Supreme Court's instructions to implement Mulki Rules.
It is not the duty of the Prime Minister to avoid regional disparities at the state level. WE elect our State Governments to take care of justice at state level.

S.Jaipal Reddy, KAKA, KK, VH, MADHU YASHKEY, UPPUNUTHALA, DAMODAR REDDY (Ex. IT), JANA REDDY (Ex.Home), Late Indra Reddy (Ex. Home), Late A.madhava Reddy (Ex.Home), T.Devender Goud (Ex.Home), Sabitha Indra Reddy (Present Home Minister), Gutta Sukendhar Reddy (Present MP), Komati Reddy Brothers etc are all like other Legislators and Parliamentarians from Andhra Region.

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ Chandra Mohan

Yes, personally i admire PV and his policies, and i am aware of handing over of his family's lands too. What i would like to know is, why couldn't he do anything to his place?

even if Lallu is a railway minister, few new trains will be added to Bihar though there is no real necessity, If Mamatha is the Minister, West Bengal will get all the benefits. (not just railways.. any ministry, the story is the same)

But when it comes to AP Ministers, what they have done really to their region's growth? I think a Prime Minister who really don't care about 10 Janpath, could be able to do much better than those other Ministers(NEHRU & GANDHI's Dynasty.. If i am not wrong, i felt PV is the only Prime Minister who took much of his decisions as he wished and i think that is one of the reasons which made 10 JANAPATH to think that he is no more under their control and better to keep him at some distance.)

vivek
United States vivek said:

we support telagana..........
donot play cheap andhra tricks here..
nobody can stop telagana

srini
United States srini said:

My dear Varma Mathur,

Telangana got 3000 years of history from Satavahana dynasty.Later the people of this region are ruled by Kakatiyas with their capital city named Andranagaram which is so called Warangal now.Many people who doesnt know the history simply say telangana is different and Andra is different the answer is NO.Telangana means telugu speaking I believe all the people from ANdra Telangana and Rayalaseema speak telugu may be with different slangs.
Today people from telangana asking for seperate state because KCR wants.I want to question JAI telangana supporters.
Why KCR could not win the people hearts in 2004 by-election and 2009 election??
What is the % of people living in telangana,support separate telangana state???

If you see from telescope objects look bigger i.e. showing good and if you look through a microscope you can see only bad.Similarly if you look Andra from a telescope you can see the sacrifice of Kurnool by Rayalaseema for new capital city Hyderabad.If you see from a microscope you can see Krishna and Godavari districts greenary because of Godavari and Krishna rivers flown from Telangana.The fact is though Godavari and Krishna rivers flow from telangana a dam in Maharashtra and Karnataka restrict the water in telangana.So no point in blaming Krishna and Godavari districts.

I say Samaikya Andra.United we stand divided we fall.

vivek
United States vivek said:

i think you donot known history,
elections are not related to seperate state,
we are figthing for telagana from last 50 years not because of kcr,you people doesnot known anything regarding this issuse and just simply talking to support andhra

I TELL U ONE TRUTH THAT WE WILL GET TELANGANA NOBODY CAN STOP IT
RAJGOPAL PLAYING TRICKS TO BECOME CM FOR ANDHRA ,EVEN HE KNOWNS UNITED ANDHRA IS NOT POSSIBLE

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@vivek

let me take the freedom of replying on behalf of srini.

We can not deny the fact that elections are the deciding factor for any important cause especially like separate telangana.

Every one knows that TRS, a political party which is having a single agenda that is "Separate Telangana". all the other parties like Congress, BJP, TDP, PRP announced their stand on "Separate Telangana" before going into the elections.

If TRS couldn't get the votes in Telangana (it can only contest less than half of telangana as there are no supporters for separate telangana in half of the telangana region) it is indirectly sending a clear message that even in the half of the region where TRS contested, people felt that if Separate Telangana is going to come, it won't do any good for them. They rejected TRS. KCR resigned as he felt that the only reason for which he is fighting for, is rejected by the people of telangana region, so what is the point of running TRS any more?

It is not for how long we have been asking for some thing, but what is it that we are asking for? and what good it is going to do if we get what we want?

Telangana
United States Telangana said:


Hello Dear Andhra Guys ,

Here is the answer for above question ....


[Andhra]
We can not deny the fact that elections are the deciding factor for any important cause especially like separate telangana.
[Telangana : True ]

[Andhra]
Every one knows that TRS, a political party which is having a single agenda that is "Separate Telangana". all the other parties like Congress, BJP, TDP, PRP announced their stand on "Separate Telangana" before going into the elections.

[Telangana : TRue ... You are correct . For Example there are 10 people from telangana who supports for T-State.
See think like this BJP told 100 Days Telangana ... NCB also favour to Telangana ... Congress FAVOUR to telangana...PRP Chiru told in peddapally clearly that when a resolution is passed in assembly ... PRP will support he told this ...

Then why cant votes divide for all ... becoz every body said jai telangana ......and TRS got less seats ]


[Andhra]
If TRS couldn't get the votes in Telangana (it can only contest less than half of telangana as there are no supporters for separate telangana in half of the telangana region) it is indirectly sending a clear message that even in the half of the region where TRS contested, people felt that if Separate Telangana is going to come, it won't do any good for them.
They rejected TRS.

[Telangana :


[Telangana :  TRS KCR == Telangana is not true Dear .....  For Example there are 10 people from telangana who supports for T-State.
See think like this BJP told 100 Days Telangana ... NCB also favour to Telangana ... Congress FAVOUR to telangana...PRP Chiru told in peddapally clearly that when a resolution is passed in assembly ... PRP will support he told this ...

Then why cant votes divide for all ... becoz every body said jai telangana ......and TRS got less seats ]


KCR resigned as he felt that the only reason for which he is fighting for, is rejected by the people of telangana region, so what is the point of running TRS any more?

[Telangana : No Dear ... KCR ki koddiga mental ... we too accept it ...

Remember KCR == TELANGANA ... is not completely true .... NOW MANY KCRS HAVE BIRTH .... JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR ANDHRA LEADERS DIFFRENT COLOURS ... NOW ALL THE CONGRESS, TDP AND TRS TELANGANA LEADER WILL BE TOGETHER FIGHT FOR TELANGANA ......

Thanks for your leaders colours ... andra people are good but not the leaders .... :-)
]

[Andhra]
It is not for how long we have been asking for some thing, but what is it that we are asking for?
and what good it is going to do if we get what we want?
[Telangana : Even we explain that you will not understand Dear ......


we want free dom from andhra leaders

These are the CMS for 45 Years before Sept 2009……

ANDHRA REGION

Bharamananda Reddy 7 years 7 Months
NTR 7 years 6 Months
Nadendla Baskar 1 Month
Nedurmalli Jaanardan Reddy 1 Year 10 Months
Bavanam Venkat Reddy 9 Months
Total : 17 Years 09 Months

RAYALASEEMA REGION

Neelam Sanjeev Reddy (Two Times) 5 Years 3 months
Damodar Sanjeevia 2 Years 2 Months
VijiyaBaskar Reddy(total) 2 Years 6 Months
Chandra Babu 2 Years 6 Months
Rajeshakara Reddy 5 Years 6 Months
Total : 23 Years 11 Months

TELANGANA
P.V Narishima Rao 1 Year 4 Months
Marri ChennaReddy 3 Years 7 Months
T . Anjaiah 1 Year 4 Months

Total : 06 Years 03 Months

What can telangana leader ship can do in 06+ Years of leadership ?

Now you are asking what your leaders are doing right ? Now they are revolting . like KCR .

For LeaderShip , for FreeDom


]

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ Telangana or Varma

I think we need to correct CBN's ruling period. it is around nine years. :) means he alone ruled the state for more period than all the other telangana leaders did. any way, that is a different story.

Look, there is a BIG difference between leadership and Power. You are saying about who are in Power for how long? and i am saying about what the telangana leaders really did for telangana so far.

I do agree that to have power is important to get the things done, but at the same time i do feel that what these (our) Telangana leaders doing today (for telangana) unitedly, had they done the same all these years for the projects, for the jobs, for the development of the region, don't you think by now telangana also (the backward areas in telangana) will be glowing by now?
That is what leadership means. Though facing adverse situations, fighting for the people and growth unitedly.

But what our telangana leaders did in that manner? NOTHING.. Even now, all they say is we want telangana, we want telangana, that's all. No one really has a future plan for the state (if separated)

One idiot leader from Telangana (congress) already saying that once telangana comes TRS will merge into Congress. Are they interested in politics? or are they interested in the growth and development of telangana? If they are interested in development, he might have talked about some future projects or plans about telangana.

So, instead of following them blindly, what is wrong if i ask myself "WHY DO I NEED TELANGANA WHEN THERE IS NO POSITIVE CHANGE IS GOING TO COME?" and i can clearly see the negative impacts of having my own separate telangana.

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

Just for Information: THE SUCCESS OF KCR's FAST
rajdeepsardesai (ibn live) says when KCR invited him for lunch, he thought KCR is a Kon Kiska Gottam before the fasting, and now he wants to meet him.

The 'success' of KCR's fast, on the other hand, has much to do with the power of the visual image and the impact it can have in shaping public perceptions. That there has always been a popular pro-Telagana sentiment is undeniable. But that sentiment has needed a symbol around which it can crystallize. For the last ten days, Andhra Pradesh's dozen-plus Telugu news channels--more than any other state in the country--have shown little else but an emaciated Rao in different hospitals. The image of a politician on saline drip with doctors offering hourly health updates was enough to build a larger-than-life aura around a leader who otherwise had dropped off the headlines.

Making KCR's task easier was a weak and nervous Andhra government still coming to terms with YSR's death. A strong state government would not have allowed the student agitation in Osmania University to get out of control and would have sent out a firm message of zero tolerance for any law and order disturbance. Unfortunately, K Rosaiah is a chief minister who feels so obliged that the Congress high command has given him the post that he has forgotten his prime responsibility lies in governing the state.

So, will other movements for a separate state now gather fresh momentum and will we see more 'fasts unto death' in the weeks ahead? An Ajit Singh in UP, Gorkhaland activists in West Bengal, even the ageing Vidarbha warriors may be tempted to test the resolve of the Indian state, or at least try and make political capital of the post-Telangana concession.


TRUE
ibnlive.in.com/.../the-power-of-the-fast.html

FactCheck
India FactCheck said:

Let me start with the premise that a king needs to collect money (either as taxes or loot) from the kingdom he rules or occupies.

And now let us go back to the history of Hyderabad and who built it.

1. Qutub-Shahi Dynasty ruled most of the telugu speaking areas (including Telangana, Rayalaseema and Coastal Districts) starting somewhere from 1512-AD till 1724-AD) with Golconda and then Hyderabad as the Capital.
2. Then the Nizams ruled the above regions starting from 1724.
3. The Nizam handed over the Coastal Regions to the British somewhere around 1785-Ad.
4. The Nizam ceded the Rayalaseema territory to the British in or around 1800-AD(indirectly because he first gave it to the French which went to the British thereafter).

From the above 4 points it can be inferred that what ever these Qutub-Shahis and Nizams built or acquired into their treasury during this period (260 years or more) was the sweat and blood of not just the current Telangana region but also the Coastal and Rayalaseema regions (and something else, details below).

5. From around 1800AD to 1948AD the Hyderabad state consisted of 16 Districts (4 that belong to Karnataka today, 4 that belong to Maharashtra today and 8 that belong to Telangana today)

So again What ever the Nizam built or acquired during this period (around 150 years) was not just from the current Telangana region but also from parts of Maharashtra and Karnataka. By simple logic only half of this came from the sweat and blood of people living in the Telanagana region.

If Telangana was not added to the Andhra State based on language, they would have been sharing this state with the current people of some part of Karnataka and some part of Maharashtra both of which happen to be the source of the water coming into Telangana region.

These are plain facts and no inferences.

The inference though a bit defective might be that out of the 400 plus years that these 2 dyanasties have ruled this region, they problably squeezed and looted a lot during the first 250 years by which a majority of the people of this region might have been impoverished and there was not much to squeeze comparitively during the later 150 years.

Hold a minute... I never said I am against Telangana being a separate state nor did I say I am for United Andhra Pradesh.

I will soon come out with some more facts related to the post-merger and hope all of us trying to judge others and label them this way or the other be better informed.

FactCheck
India FactCheck said:

Let me start with the premise that a king needs to collect money (either as taxes or loot) from the kingdom he rules or occupies.

And now let us go back to the history of Hyderabad and who built it.

1. Qutub-Shahi Dynasty ruled most of the telugu speaking areas (including Telangana, Rayalaseema and Coastal Districts) starting somewhere from 1512-AD till 1724-AD) with Golconda and then Hyderabad as the Capital.
2. Then the Nizams ruled the above regions starting from 1724.
3. The Nizam handed over the Coastal Regions to the British somewhere around 1785-Ad.
4. The Nizam ceded the Rayalaseema territory to the British in or around 1800-AD(indirectly because he first gave it to the French which went to the British thereafter).

From the above 4 points it can be inferred that what ever these Qutub-Shahis and Nizams built or acquired into their treasury during this period (260 years or more) was the sweat and blood of not just the current Telangana region but also the Coastal and Rayalaseema regions (and something else, details below).

5. From around 1800AD to 1948AD the Hyderabad state consisted of 16 Districts (4 that belong to Karnataka today, 4 that belong to Maharashtra today and 8.5 that belong to Telangana today, A part of Khammam was taken from Godavari District) and then we have Hyderabad City/District

So again What ever the Nizam built or acquired during this period (around 150 years) was not just from the current Telangana region but also from parts of Maharashtra and Karnataka. By simple logic only half of this came from the sweat and blood of people living in the Telanagana region.

If Telangana was not added to the Andhra State based on language, they would have been sharing this state with the current people of some part of Karnataka and some part of Maharashtra both of which happen to be the source of the water coming into Telangana region.

These are plain facts and no inferences.

The inference though a bit defective might be that out of the 400 plus years that these 2 dyanasties have ruled this region, they problably squeezed and looted a lot during the first 250 years by which a majority of the people of this region might have been impoverished and there was not much to squeeze comparitively during the later 250 years.

Hold a minute... I never said I am against Telangana being a separate state nor did I say I am for United Andhra Pradesh.

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ PRO-T Guys,

any thing on the comments of factcheck ?

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

Separate Telangana? Who is Majority? Who is Minority?
anigalla.net/.../...-Majority-Who-is-Minority.aspx

Sathgun
Australia Sathgun said:

Dear FactCheck,

"By simple logic only half of this came from the sweat and blood of people living in the Telanagana region"

Nijam's property was shared between Central,State and Nijam. There is still some of Nijam's wealth in London's bank which is in court from last 60 years for which Indian government is fighting. I think the share contributed by karnataka and maharastra was already given to the central government.
May be you can keep your simple logics to yourself.  



vivek
India vivek said:

DEAR FACTCHECK

YOU HAVE SHOWN SOME FAULTS IN OUR FACTS
1)ONLY 10'S NUMBER OF VILLAGES FROM ANDHRA AND RAYALASEMA WAS RULED BY NIZAMS,BUT THEY LOST THIER CONTROL AFTER BRITISERS ENTERED

2)HYDERABAD WAS BUILD ONLY LAST 200 YEARS BACK BY NIZAMS(WHICH CONSIST OF ONLY 16 STATES NOT ANDHRA AND RAYALSEMMA)

SEE FACTS FROM HISTROY BOOKS AND GOVT RECORDS,PLEASE DONOT CREATE NEW HISTORY

FactCheck
India FactCheck said:

If the shares of Maharashtra and Karnataka have been given to the Central Government, then that belongs to all the citizens of this country, of which all of us belong i.e. No exclusive rights for anyone

FactCheck
India FactCheck said:

Rome was not built in a day:) Hyderabad was also not built in a day too.

From my reading of history books, Hyderabad was built by Qutub-Shahi Dynasty and not Nizams.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Circars


Nizams, later developed it further. And after Independent India, Indians developed it further to what it is today.


From the general comments seen on TV and the Web, where a part of the public think, Golconda belongs to Telangana People, Hyderabad belongs to Telangana people, etc., it is to be noted that both these existed before the Nizams and were built by rulers who also controlled the rest of the regions of Andhra Pradesh for most of the time.

Bottomline, Before we claim this way or the other, I am happy that some of the people who have posted here have REALLY read the history. Good going..

ricky
India ricky said:

It is so obvious that it is all KCR's game - he feels he can become CM of Telangana as he knows he has no chance to be the CM of Andhra Pradesh. If Andhra region is developed it is because the people work hard, they give importance to education and they are progressive minded. Telangana never had leaders with "social service" attitude. Even during the recent floods, when all the parties came forward to help the victims, KCR was nowhere in the picture. His "fast" was also a joke. I hope the people of Telangana realise what kind of a person he is.

rk naidu
United States rk naidu said:

Dear Indian brothers working all over the world.
Please dont join our politicians , mostly goondas, stole the peoples  future.

they all the same thieves.

Dont make our lives difficult on foreign soil, if this philosophy of Devision continues,
KASHMIR Should get independence, Gurkhas, nagaland, tripura all hill states should leave india.

Come to sences, Look at democracies, Discussions in civilised manner, voting by majority is norm, look at Health care discussions.

WHERE are these goondas elected by our Telengana people, what they have been doing for years.CAn you trust them.Look at  these leaders all are thieves, look at their wealth, WHere did they get these crores-----.dont be fooled use your education, and brain.

A foreigner, from italy just by marrying a white skined kashmiris grand son become queen in our oppressed nation, shame on all INDIAN fools.

Solution, it seems telangana leaders wanted to make money like Andhra leaders, give them a chance, let them make money which will settle.

Point is we all TELUGUS, if Parents were telugus stop bringing hate, we are the victims,
you will see What is the main Interest of these telangana or andhra leaders, they all same Thieves.

Dont Create hell for working class or, fellow telugus,

Again, make telengana guy a CHEAP minister, let him make money like others, we all will be happy ypou dont need Italy,

GOd saves telugus{FROGS}.

RKnaidu,MD,Frcs, Telugu american

suman
Iran suman said:


telangana lendi meru bathaklera inka enni rojulu ma meda depend avadam.

There are 25 plus government degree colleges in Krishna, Kadapa and Guntur district while there is not even a single government degree college in Ranga Reddy district.(inka depend kavali anukuntunava. ne .............a)

Not even a single project was completed in Telangana in the last 5 years while several projects were completed in Andhra and Rayalaseema.



45% of the state income comes from Telangana region. When it comes to utilization of funds, the share of Telangana is only 28%.

Nagarjuna sagar dam is built in Nalgonda district which is in Telangana but majority of the water from the dam is used for Krishna and Guntur district. (ne yabba inka enni rojulu ra)

Government issue G.O.’s for implicating its decisions. G.O number 610 is the longest non implicated G.O in the history of AP. The G.O was issued in 1986 by late NTR who was then the CM of AP, which is not yet implicated. The G.O speaks about the share of Telangana employees in Government jobs in Telangana region.


Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ Suman,

separate telangana seekers are trying to manipulate the facts by showing the over all figures (whether colleges, or schools or jobs, etc, etc,) and mislead people.

i think they need to know some facts. watch this video to understand that the percentage of new schools in telangana are 4 times more compared to non telangana region since 1955, new government teacher jobs in telangana are 1.5 times more than the new jobs in Andhra, to understand sanctions for farmers are more than double compared to andhra.

watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMbdMicG9qA

Suman
India Suman said:




G.O.NO.1845 released on dec 11,2009 for road development. Total 130 crores for AP.for SEEMANDHRA DISTRICTS 120 crores....& for TELANGANA 10 DISTRICTS 9.5 crores.
intha struggle chsthunna e timelonu ila vunte..   chepandi inka enni rojulu chepandi.......

chinnasuman
India chinnasuman said:


Hi close to reality

en.wikisource.org/.../Hyderabad_CM_Burgula_Views_about_merger

Check this link....After reading our former Chief minister's letter then only tell me that you are supporting Telangana or not.(yes or no)

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

so many lies by telangana leaders and pro telangana seekers.
here are some facts..
How many people under Below Poverty Line in Telangana? How many in other region?
anigalla.net/.../...-How-many-in-other-region.aspx

@chinnasuman,

the figures i am giving here is in 2009, you are asking me to read something wrote in 1956? i am showing the present scenario and any way, i'll go through that one more time.

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

dated November 3, 1956: Andhra Pradesh

Inaugurating the new State of Andhra Pradesh in Hyderabad, Prime Minister Nehru said that of the many changes that had taken place in India the most significant one was the formation of Andhra Pradesh. "Other great States have also been formed. Nevertheless, I think, the most significant change is here, not only change in the political sense, but also in psychological sense - psychological because the greatest of the old great States vanishes from the map of India and its three parts go in three directions and the major part comes and becomes the important element of Andhra Pradesh. That symbolises not only a political change of importance, but also the gradual basic changes we are bringing about in India."


Nehru is referring to Hyderabad State, Separate Telangana seekers manipulate this and say "Telangana State" merged with "Andhra State".
Fortunately they didn't try to tell the world that KCR is the CM OF TELANGANA STATE IN INDIA WHILE MERGING. :)

Ram
India Ram said:

For playing cricket AP need two teams but for land grabbing in Hyderabad we want one United Andhra. JayHo!!
In Adnhra Pradesh we have two cricket teams one Andhra -represents people from Seemandhra (Non telangana) second Hyderabad - People from accross Andhra Pradesh.

Keep looting

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

The Andhra cricket team is an Indian domestic cricket team representing the coastal areas of the South Indian state of Andhra Pradesh. It is, one of two teams representing the people of Andhra Pradesh, the other team being the Hyderabad cricket team, which mainly represents the city of Hyderabad.

half of the districts a team and the rest half of the district a team.

where is the looting here?

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

Funny..

Who are they to decide? If government come forward and make a decision to merge the both it is a matter of few days work. Home Minister (from Telangna) wearing bangles and enjoying Chamundi's game. Put chamundi in the jail, i would love to see that too.

Coming to GO 1845 on December 11, i think you need to read today's newspaper for clarification. Because the news that you are saying is Old and manipulated by KCR and other Pro telangana seekers. Minister clarified that this is a release of first phase in the over all funds. and around 85crores to be released in the second phase (to certain districts which didn't get in the first phase).

That is the clarification given by the minister, so he should be able to tell the facts about it better than me.

kumar
India kumar said:

Dear Reality,

If you people are thinking of samaikya Andhra then why you never thought of merging the Andhra Cricket Association with Hyderabad and form AP Cricket Association? First reason is members of andhra cricket assosiation loose their employment and entertainment (in many aspects - the best example is Chamundeshwarnath). Secondly, it is very tough to represent in AP team for the players of Andhra cricket team.

GO no 1845 which was released on dec 11 clearly shows the negligence towards the telangana region even after all the agitation.Panchayat raj and rural development funds were released and out of 130 crores allotted to the state from NABARD telangana gets a share of just 10 crores(As the telangana area is large it should get its share of 42% according to constitution).Now tell me where is the so called SAMAIKYATHA in this.

Telangana - Real State
Samaikya Andhra - Real Estate

Keep looting - Jay Ho

Ram
India Ram said:

Priyati primaina Close to Reality,

you will never reach reality. I suggest you that please go through the G.O. 1845 which was released on 11th of December'2009.

I agree on your point that the funds will be released in a phased manner but it was already decided where to utilise the funds.
AP has received Rs. 130.4614 crores from NABARD out of which only Rs. 9.2672 crores have been allocated to Telangana and the rest allocated to Seemandhra State.

Thanks to Lagadapati!! that he believes that he will not die if he admitted in NIMS, as similar to KCR (both the leaders doing the same drama).

Thanks to KCR for controlling TRS people to not to make any violence in Hyderabad.

Telangana - Real State
Samaikya Andhra - Real Estate

Keep looting - Jay Ho

What is your probelm when telangana people struggle for Second Freedom movement.

Jai Hind

Jai Telangana

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ Ram

The point Pro T-Seekers are highlighting is something like this..

"A BOY IS GETTING DISTINCTION IN HIS EXAMS THROUGH OUT THE YEAR, BUT THE TIME WHEN HIS FATHER WANTS TO CHECK HIS PROGRESS CARD, IN THAT EXAMS HE GOT ONLY PASS MARKS. SO THE FATHER CHECKED HIS LATEST EXAMINATION MARKS AND TOLD THE BOY THAT HE IS NOT STUDYING AT ALL."

Right now T-Movement is going on, so every one wide opened their eyes to find a fault some where and some how. They don't talk about the over all funds released over a period of 5 years on various departments etc., etc.,

They only will take G.O.1845, and will put it under magnifying lens and try to make the people think that every day this is what happening.

OK, if every day this is what happening let us fight and get our share but don't split the state for that. If you split today for that reason tomorrow we have to listen arguments like, Nizamababad and medak are getting more projects and Nalgonda not getting projects, so we want a separate state for Nalgonda.

Dividing is not a solution.

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ Ram

Btw, like i said, today you will call it second freedom movement, if everyone say yes to this, within few years we will see third freedom movement with in TELANGANA itself, and by the time we die, god knows how many more freedom movements we have to see..

Rajeshwari
India Rajeshwari said:

No No No and a No... Thats the answer for a separate telangana state. I'm a telangana pori.. Born here, bought up here, living here .. why.. even going to die here.. I want no division in my state. I belong to Andhra Pradesh and I'm immensely proud of it. Just b'se some A'ole's want power, they are trying to break my state into pieces. People, like fools are going with that and destroying their own property. Telangana is a part of Andhra Pradesh. It is a land of telugu speaking people and all telugu spekaing people belong to Andhra Pradesh. This state is not a govt property for it to distribute it as it wants. It belongs to the people. People who have lived here for ages, who contributed for its progress and who stand by it. Why should the state be turned into peices?? For what joy?? What good does it bring?? Nothing. Why divide ourselves when we can stand together and work for a better state?? Its a shame for brothers of the same state fighting with each other to get separated. Its an insult to the integrity of my state. Any Andhrite who loves his state will NEVER ask for a partition. These activists who are causing so much trouble... who are they??? What right do they have to destroy our property?? When they do not even have a common sense to protect the public property, with what trust should we place a part of our beloved state in their hands?? They are not bothered about the welfare of the people or the state. They are offered money to create trouble and without a conscience, they are doing it?? Whats wrong in staying together?? Let them be reminded one thing  - UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL. Andhrapradesh has to stay as one. We are all one. We have the respect and integrity of our state to protect. Please, lets not fight among ourselves. Lets stay together peacefully... I wish I can do something else for my state.. for it to stay as one!!!

kiran
India kiran said:

dear chandra mohan,reality.
    Chandra mohan nenu mee vadanani oppukuntunna, annintikanna mundu nenu telangana vanni meeru cheppinattu ga ap oka conditional state rather than linguistic state and mana meeda andhra volla domination nadusthundi, mana properties kollakoduthunru ivanni vasthavale, telangana division kooda avasarame kaani telanga divison tharuvatha jarige parinamala gurinchi kooda matladukovadam chala mukyam.
   Naaku thelsi telangana divide aithe ruling loki vacchedi trs party, trs vasthe rao domination peruguthundi endukante mottam trs lo rao caste vallede picheyyi undi and aa kcr ki dimak sariga undadi aadu rojuko mata chepthadu, prajalni recchakoduthadu vere kulala vallani addamina matalu antadu. vada telanganani elalsindi?????
    naaku thelsi asalu ippudu andhra and rayaseema ollu samykya andra ananeeki kooda eeda badyudu endukante asalu telangana enduku kavali,andhra pradesh formation cheritra endi, telangana lekunda manam em kolpothunnam,telangana divide ainanka androllu ikkada unna vallakem problem undadu anna vishayalanu ap mottam population ki clear ga explain cheyyali, atla kakunda aa kcr andraollani tharimeddam,andarini addamina thitlu thittukunta asali vishayanni kanapadakunda chesthundu.idi chala pedda thappu anduke androlu telangana vasthe vallu edo kolpothunru manaku vallaki kotlatalu vasthai ani bayapaduthunru.
   Ippudu jaruguthunna telanga udyamam kooda sarina reethilo undi ani nenu anukovadam ledhu, bus lu palagottudu, office lu bund  chesudu, public properties padu chesuko, kondari mahanubavula vigrahalu palagottudu sarinadi kadhu, vatanintiki trs ee badyatha vahinchali endukante prajalni shanthituthanga kakunda rechakotindi alanti panulu chesedi trs ee ani andariki thelsu.
   Inkoti telanga asalu deniki kavalanukuntunnamo (development)adi state divide tho matrame sadinchachcu anukovadam thappu,ippudu jaruguthunna udyamalu kani lollulu kani telangana development panula kosam chesthe asalu androllu kooda noru thervaru.asalu manaki developmental ga em em demands unnayo avi govt ki clear ga cheppi daniki oka dead line time petti sadinchukolema?? telanga only divide ainankane development panulu start cheyyala ippude vatikosam poradakoodada??? chanamandi telanganollaki ide doubt(naaku kooda)asalu ippude development jarugutha ledhu inthamandi pedda nayakulu mana telanganala undi divide ainanka ika vallaki addu adupu lekunda thintaru thappa em development sadistharu ani...  
   finally telangana avasarme kaani adi sadinchapoyina development ela sadinchali annadani pina drusti pettale, godavalu cheyyakunda shantiyuthanga asalu telnagana enduku kavali anukuntunnamo mootam ap prajalaki (not only telanganites) media thro explain cheyyale, and presently unna kcr and trs lanti partities ki support ivvakunda students nunde "telanga development party" ane danni sthapinchadam manchidi.

shabbeer
Saudi Arabia shabbeer said:

jai jai telangana, if we got telangana our deams will come true,

kittu
India kittu said:

just v want ur telangana......and where did this seemandhra came now,it was not der till now and who the hell created dis seemandhra.......

Abhilash
India Abhilash said:

Hi Friends


Firstly I am in pro with Telangana being seperated.
People who want Samikyandhra say that there are many leaders from Telangana who has not uttered a single word all these days for development but are shouting for a seperate state now.

Ok I agree but who is the lead for all these leaders and also the majority in assembly is andhra right...so how com the funds come to Telangana. Its clear that even if one leader of telangana asks any projects or funds for developing they say that we give but it doesn't happen at all.

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@Abilash

"EK NIRANJAN" strategy won't work here. we are saying where are they? means everyone, not just one leader.

All the 119 should come together and demand for the projects, it should be a collective approach towards achieving their dreams. They are not united and that is why, we had this situation now.

United Andhra Pradesh
United States United Andhra Pradesh said:

To,
The President of India,
Rashtrapathi Bhavan,
New Delhi.

Respected Madam President,

We look forward to you for your kind intervention in the matter of the demand for a separate Telangana State, as it is engineered and pushed forward by self-seeking and short-sighted small - time power brokers, politically unemployed, arousing passions and raising a bogey of “non-development” --- the two hallmarks of the Telangana movement. It hardly needs a mention that edifice of their case is based on twisted facts and doctored statistics.

The movement has already taken its toll, and it is fast moving towards spreading disaffection and hatred among people.

Thus there is an urgent need to arrest the movement and call it a bluff. Even a casual look at the statistics cited in this exhaustive note would conclusively establish how fallacious their argument is. Far from the Telangana region not making any progress,  it is this area which has registered phenomenal growth in almost all areas of development one could think of,  when compared to  both Andhra and Rayalseema regions.

Telangana’s growth
In 1955-56, there were about 22,000 schools in Andhra and Rayalseema regions whereas during the same period Telangana region had hardly 8000 schools.  After about 50 years, the numbers rose to about 55,000 in Andhra and Rayalseema regions as against (about) 41,000 schools in Telangana region.  Thus the percentage growth in the Telangana region was 413% whereas it was just about 155% in the other two regions put together.

Likewise, the percentage growth of enrolment in the Telangana region was about 916% whereas the growth was just 235% in Andhra and Rayalseema regions. Similarly there was a phenomenal increase in the number of teachers recruited in Telangana Region (366%), where as it was just normal (130%) in Andhra and Rayalseema region. Similar is the picture in respect of collegiate education too.

Barring one in Warangal and a few in the city of Hyderabad, there were absolutely no Science and Arts colleges in Telangana districts up to 1955-56, since there was no educational or other development worth its name till then. This was in direct contrast to what prevailed in Andhra and Rayalaseema regions.

In short, the formation of A.P. in 1956 was a boon to the children of Telangana region, (both urban and rural) and to-day they enjoy facilities for every type of education at their door step.

Likewise, the formation of the State also heralded a new era of agricultural development in the Telangana region in that, several irrigation facilities were launched   resulting in phenomenal growth of different crops like rice, (284%) Cotton (1472%) and so on.  The detailed statistical tables and the graphics abstracted from authentic government sources running to several pages - are being appended.

Even a casual browsing of the above figures would establish how shallow  the bogey of “non-development” is, raised by those spearheading  the Telangana agitation.  While deciding an issue of this nature emotions and sentiments cannot obviously play a part and this is exactly what the so called leaders are arousing and playing with.

We request you, Madam President to be so kind as to consider the following detailed note and keep at bay the demands for separate Telangana state made with ulterior motives.  By taking a firm stand you will be carving a niche for yourselves in the annals of the country, as a head of the state who took long term view and firmly stood for the integrity of the nation.

Distortion of facts
The allegation that Telangana region has not developed or has developed less than the Andhra and Rayalaseema regions is totally baseless. Actually, after the formation of the linguistic state of Andhra Pradesh in 1956, it is the Telangana region that has fared much better than the other two regions. This is not surprising because the capital city of Hyderabad is in the Telangana region.

It is a universally acknowledged that development takes place most in and around the capital city. This is true of even the city of Delhi. A foreign writer described Delhi an artificial city because, in its enormous development, it is not representative of the rest of India. Actually, the same is true of most of national capitals and even of state capitals in a federation.

The clamour for separation comes normally from the regions away from the capital. In the case of Telangana, surprisingly, the clamour for separation is from the region which has benefited most. However a little probe would establish that the clamour is not from the grassroots but from the self-seeking political brokers.

Greater beneficiary
After 1956, most of the institutional and industrial developments have taken place in and around the capital city of Hyderabad, though the city had no infrastructural facilities like power, water, transport, access to a port etc. It didn’t have even abundant raw material resources. Because of the Central and State investments, many ancillary Industries have sprung up in this region. The necessary personnel to man the industries have migrated to Hyderabad not only from Andhra Pradesh but from other parts of India as well. This phenomenon has benefited Telangana most. The rest of Andhra Pradesh didn’t see such development, but the Rayalaseema and Andhra regions are not grumbling.

As far as irrigation is concerned, before the formation of the state in 1956, there were no irrigation projects except Nizamsagar in Telangana region. There were some projects in the other two regions like Dhawaleswaram dam on Godavari, Prakasam barrage on Krishna, KC canal from Tungabhadra, dam on Penna , Kanigiri reservoir etc. After the formation of the State, Nagarjunasagar, Srisailam, Somasila. Sriramsagar, Lower Maneru projects have come up. Of these, Nagarjunasagar and Srisailam projects have benefited both Telangana and Andhra regions. Somasila benefited Nellore district for irrigation, besides supplying drinking water to Tirupati and Chennai. Sriramsagar and Lower Maneru projects are exclusively for the benefit of Telangana. Considering all these it can not be said that Telangana has been

deprived by any stretch of imagination.

After the formation of the State, it is the Telangana region that has developed industrially most. Also, all the major service industries like IT and Tourism etc. have developed mostly in Hyderabad city and around. The other two regions have remained virtually stagnant. They remained agricultural as they were at the inception, barring the lone exception of Visakhapatnam.

The other absurd allegation that Telangana has been exploited by the rest of Andhra Pradesh is a travesty of facts. The capital has flown from rest of Andhra Pradesh into Telangana, and not the other way round. The flow of capital has been only a one way street. The generation of employment consequent to fresh investment has taken place only in Telangana region, particularly, in and around Hyderabad. There is nothing surprising about the industries tapping, for technically trained manpower requirements from all over the country, and from other regions of Andhra Pradesh.

Lack of mass base
In spite of such impeachable facts about the development of the Telangana region, if there is still a clamour for separation, it can only be because of the politically disgruntled class and other vested interests and self-seeking  government employees. It is worth noting that the TRS which spearheads the movement for separation has seen a gradual decrease in its share of the voters in the various elections that have taken place in recent years. Had the TRS had a real mass base, it would not be craving for alliances with other parties. The very fact that the TRS is eagerly searching for political partners would show how diffident it is. Likewise, political parties too want to jump on the band wagon with an eye on the ensuing elections.

It needs to be noted that Telangana started from a lower development base. For ages, it was under the Nizam’s rule, whereas the rest of Andhra Pradesh was under the British rule, which was relatively better off, with greater facilities for education under the British government and lesser social suppression of the weaker classes.

Inequalities between regions because of historical and other reasons are such that they cannot be wiped off in a day. What is needed is to judge whether regional imbalances are being gradually minimized over a period. Judged by this standard, Telangana region has benefited more by its integration than the other two regions. Thus the shoe is on the other foot.

A slogan of culture of Telangana being in jeopardy and that its self-respect is damaged is again a bogey. In these days of global integration, no region’s culture is in tact. Every region benefits from its exposure to global culture. Concepts like individual dignity and freedom from servility have spread even in a stifled atmosphere of Telangana region after the formation of the state. If separate Telangana should happen, there is the danger of a reversion to the original state -  when the servant can not see the master in the eye and he will be obliged  to carry his chappals. Such slavery was widespread in Telangana region and not in the rest of Andhra Pradesh.

Pining for slaves
The dominant castes/ classes feel deprived because, after integration, they don’t enjoy their old power and privileges. In a separate Telangana, it is exactly the minorities, the dalits, the tribes from the hills, and the landless working class that will suffer the most and will see an erosion of their dignity and relative freedom which they have slowly got after integration. The so called loss of culture or self-respect is more a call for the restoration of the old privileges on the part of the exploiters than anything else.

Historically speaking, the word Telangana originally meant only a region of the Telugu speaking people. The Telugus were united under 1) Andhrasathavahanas,  2) Kakatiyas 3) Vijayanagara empire and 4) even Nizam before certain districts were ceded by him to the British. It is interesting to know that, at the beginning of the 16th century, it was the coastal and adjoining region that was shown as Telangana in a Map from the book “India-A History” by John Keay (Page: 280) Publisher: Harper Collins.(Copy enclosed).

The formation of a separate state of Andhra Pradesh is a culmination of the dream of all Telugu people and the result of the sacrifices of so many patriotic people. The dream should not be allowed to be shattered by the machinations of a few short-sighted, self-seeking, and power-hungry, political activists. The political parties are toeing the line and are aligning only for drawing political mileage. They have no other interest except self- interest and short term gain.

The so-called “sentiment” (which is more a catchy slogan) is limited to the power brokers. If at all there is some “sentiment, it is because of the ignorance of the masses and because the relevant facts and figures are not made known to them. So there is an urgent need to make available the correct facts and figures to the masses and to educate them. This can best be done by the government in power.

The Telangana movement has been whipped up at different points of time by the politically disgruntled elements. Similarly, a counter movement for a separate Andhra region was also seen in the past. The Central leadership of those times stood rock-like and didn’t yield. There is a need to exhibit the same determination even today when political morality in generally is at its lowest ebb.

If Central leadership yields to every passing whims of “sentiment” or to the machinations of the self-declared defenders of regional interests, it will eventually lead to the balkanization of the country.

There are a number of Hindi speaking states. But that exception apart, linguistic states have a cultural unity of their own, and this unity deserves to be nurtured and promoted.

There is yet another aspect of the matter. The Dalits and minorities have a unity all over the country which the rest of the population doesn’t enjoy. So the Dalits and minorities will have a greater say in a larger state. They are more vulnerable in a smaller state.

Considering that we are passing through troubled times now, we look forward to you to be as firm and steadfast as central leadership of the fast, in not entreating bifurcation of states any further.

With respectful regards,
Yours sincerely,
United NRI Telugu People.
Dallas, TX, USA.

sarath
India sarath said:

I am from karimangar(Korutla), STRONGLY against splitting AP. I did some research and i wanted to share my research with your wonderful piece of work about clearing the myths about telangana.

The following are some facts about three regions in AP.

Region-------Telangana-(Hyd)-(coastal)-(seema)

Forest area%--28.07-----------19.86-----22.8

Irrigarea%-----40.62-----------54.65-----30.38

percapitabank
credit--- ------361.85--17079---610.96----285.38

Literacy------57.03----79.09---62.5------60. 65

This information can be obtained from
www.aponline.gov.in/Quick%20Links/APFactFile/info%20on%20districts/Districts.htm

This clearly shows that telangana IS NOT AN UNDERDEVELOPED REGION.

Note: Per capita bank of andhra is little more because of VIZAG which is a huge contributer for that region.

Fact seeker
India Fact seeker said:

I am from karimangar(Korutla), STRONGLY against splitting AP. I did some research and i wanted to share my research with your wonderful piece of work about clearing the myths about telangana.

The following are some facts about three regions in AP.

Region-------Telangana-(Hyd)-(coastal)-(seema)

Forest area%--28.07-----------19.86-----22.8

Irrigarea%-----40.62-----------54.65-----30.38

percapitabank
credit--- ------361.85--17079---610.96----285.38

Literacy------57.03----79.09---62.5------60. 65

This information can be obtained from
www.aponline.gov.in/Quick%20Links/APFactFile/info%20on%20districts/Districts.htm

This clearly shows that telangana IS NOT AN UNDERDEVELOPED REGION.

Note: Per capita bank of andhra is little more because of VIZAG which is a huge contributer for that region.

vamshi
India vamshi said:

                            jai telangana
now this is the correct time to speak about our telangana , if we neglect now then in future we cant even express our views ,
every time andhra people wants to command us...

if telangana is not a issue then why all parties in ap have aggred for separate state in 2009 elections......

90 percent employees in ap are andhra people...
here there is no food, no education, no employment...

there are no facilities in telangana universities, then how telangana peolple get proper education and empolyement

andhra people will insult our language and culture,, they consider us as low level people , then how can we leave with them

andhra people will say that they want samaikyandra, but they will not talk about the damage done to telangana by them

Ram
India Ram said:

how we look at the problem depends, all the facts and figures are presented, well that is one thing we need not bother about, since in the name of development if dole on that, it would be other good twenty min that would be period, look back to-day and if the in tented development not taken has not taken as indented, were do we go back, the problem is seperate state, what if the so called development has not taken and whom do blame for, these politicians or we just we cry on the historical mistake..

i am either pro-nor againest this! i am more for the future, good quarter  century  back the so called convener a dull,sick wrench prof. who is taking extra pain redefining the our culture/heritage what not, the biggest of all unity.....

i am proud to part of this history to come out one of the best university in the southern states our very own Osmania..what is it today, of late this our very own is rattling bottom of the list of the best, i just can not forget the joy of walking on the campus and the fun we had, a very good clean fun..although we can groups we  only had cultural thing, believe friends no politician can live long with  out the money flow in their system,that leads to gross loss of time we have spend and at very end they will take all of you big ransom  also it is true beyond your thought and when that is happen the precious time lost and, we dont even stand in the fray, for the better jobs, i have heard biggest fad the century that all the youth will get the government jobs, a job which is secured and permanent.that too a sate proving for all is a laughable thing..

the lives were lost, one will get one life see it from the beauty of it live every moment of it.. other day when heard of the some one taking his very own life at the campus, i was making some fun with friend when this new came along, first i was shoked and gone in to shell for two days..
i don't want any one fight for the cause, also think for who's shake?
i want leave with for now ....

Anybody can make history. Only a great man can write it.  - Oscar Wilde
  







  

Praveen
India Praveen said:

Its better to stop arguing with these fools, we can tell to a person who wants to listen to/understand us but we can't tell to a person who doesn't want to listen to/believe us & thinks he knows all(their false & outdated statistics which they proliferated all over the net)..

Many T leaders/people scolded (pachi boothulu) publicly andhra/seema  leaders/people..(mukku kostham, bhaago etc).. Did any one saw a single leader from andhra/seema who scolded T people???? If they castigate KCR or his chamchas they will substitute it to entire T people (T athmagavaram)..

"Rama" anna bhutu laga vinapadutundi vallaku

If an investment is made in telangana they say they were exploited, but if the same is made in andhra/seema they say they are ignored..

Heads T morons win, Tails andhra/seema people loose..

Close To Reality
United States Close To Reality said:

@ Praveen

Liked your point..  If an investment is made in telangana they say they were exploited, but if the same is made in andhra/seema they say they are ignored..

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